‘Conventional’ vs ‘natural’ winemaking in Greece with Maria Moutsou

Okay Good afternoon evening morning Depending on where you are in the world Welcome to The next in our series of webinars for Wfcp school london And it’s good to have you back i hope You’ve been been joining us for a few of The webinars Already um which we started hoping Harvesting at the beginning of lockdown When we were unable to do our in-person Events Um if you have you may well have seen Maria already Uh maria moots is our host for tonight Um our expert On all things greek wine uh so the plan For the evening will be To hand over to her she’s got a lovely Presentation To show you and there is some tasting so Those of you that Did do have the wines uh would be great To know your tasting notes as we go Along If you have any questions please do keep Them until the end and we’ll have some Time To um I think that’s about it for me okay Maria over to you Thanks julia thanks very much for this Uh for you to you

And the wsct school london for this Opportunity Uh my engagement with greek wine is a Pure Love affair uh so i started a profession Um and got into greek wine Uh purely out of uh interest Love curiosity and passion brought all This together And it’s a fantastic way to discover One um territories terrorists History and taste so i Strongly recommend wine tasting i think It should be Mandatory i think it should be part of a Secondary school education So until then there is a wct school To give us this opportunity so i’m going To Talk to you about greek wine today in General Focusing on two well-known grapes Perhaps The most known greek grapes iconic greek Grapes Uh that raise their roots very back into History And we are going to discuss and see how And we are going to see two examples uh I believe Comparison and comparative measures They do help education so i like to Showcase different styles of wines So that we can pick the the similarities

And point out the differences and i Think this helps into the Uh into our journey uh knowledge journey Uh so the idea was to show to a year Grapes first one um conventional one Natural Very good wine makings for both and then Two a year yiddico And wines two whites and two reds And discuss a little bit about uh the New trend The the not so new uh trend of Uh natural wine making uh with you So we’ll make a start and we are In the greek wine territory and just Wanted to share with you the fact that You know already a lot you know quite a Bit about greek wine and Greek language and greek wine Terminology To start with the words wine and vine As well as a knowledge and enologist They come from the greek word Inus and that’s something that perhaps We are not very much aware so all Western vocabulary around wine Comes from the greek word inus and then We’ve got the word Uh the term angelography it’s for that Part of the Botanical studies that they they focus On uh the classification identification Of uh different types of Grape plants and the categorization of

That And then we have the agronomy which Is the science and the study of the land The soil management and the crop Production um So and then i just wanted again to Uh to show you uh how greeks have Um not only built the language around Wine But also some some thinking And influenced the way wine making Sort of developed from all times uh They were uh one of the most um Active traders of wine in the um In the ancient times and they have they Had a Predilection for the coast for the Coastal areas of europe Because it it was there that um They could uh they could um Carry out trading uh at its best And in that sense Many of the coastal cities of Modern modern Europe they were established by Greeks like nice friends niece and and Deeps Michia and dipoli marseilles And this is the root how the root of Of the native grapes of the east of the Proximal east traveling into the west And acidic Is one of these grapes we are going to Go back to that

Uh soon and just Another a little thing about how the Wine was regarded in ancient greece Greece it was regarded highly it was a Highly priced product agricultural Product Um and the Focus there was mo was more on the Origin And the terroir rather than the great Varieties or the winemaker So it was a communal uh work and what Uh was uh supposed to uh to offer The uh the highest quality was um The the land and the climate that Particular location where the white was Coming from From and there are various favorable Comments um in literature from the American um Poems onwards about the most Prestigious uh areas of making wine in Ancient greece Amongst which many islands like kioskos Lesbos Naxos scope los tacios and the kalkidiki Peninsula And just one more thing about greek Grapes before we move into The ascetic or nigerian showcase of Today Um we feel we believe that greek grapes Are ancient And well grapes are ancient is an

Ancient Fruit how i’m seeing how how old are They And i think here i i think this this Talk Talks gives me the opportunity to Discuss Uh a little bit with you how nature Works and Draw i i guess some of you have Recognized uh the male figure on the Left Uh is charles darwin i live not far from From his estate from his family home i Have used that many times In southeast london so he’s Known for a groundbreaking theory Of of the evolution of species and This was based on a big journey that he Uh he did around the globe uh visiting Some remote Areas including the galabagos islands They are calabagus islands are volcanic Islands um In the pacific ocean just off Quite a bit of the coast of peru and he Was able there to and then Identify species animal species that Seem to have been stuck in time Sorry sorry i may have missed something There So uh basically um He was able to show one that somehow In some areas time can can go very slow

Can Not stop but go very slow and then he Was able to establish Some evolution connections between Different parts Of the of the globe and That being uh islands of the continent Um as well as um Asia uh the asia mainland So in a way it suggested that this Lands were once connected and then Um the the stimuli for change Uh they didn’t go that fast on both On both parts of them and of the Of the gap of the of the of the ocean Basically So in calabagas we we find this uh Giant tortoises and They weigh value stones and they can Live up to 150 Years unfortunately their Their life expectancy has now been Reduced because calabagas is now a Touristic Destination and basically the terroir Their habitat has changed In ways that we can see and we can study And perhaps We haven’t fully studied um but there Are definitely more animals now more Pests That have altered the the habitat and Have altered Not only their their their uh

Nutrition sources basically the the Availability of food for them grass But affected also the overall microbe Uh micro biome And the the balance between the species So going back to the original argument Um certainly grapes are Very old in greece and it seems that in Some Places in some places whereas not much Change has taken place Places that they were kept in if you Like Guarded isolated to a good extent like Santorini We believe that any changes that they Are natural Possibly happened in a very slow pace So for some Sorry for some of the grapes Uh that natural Evolutionary development happened very Slowly And possibly they are very close Genetically to the grapes That they were there two or three Thousand years ago For greek grapes and wine making in Greece we have evidence That goes back six and a half thousand Years and there are places in the world Georgia that we know that there has been Or and many others there has been Evidence

Of winemaking that goes back 8 000 years and this is documented uh Not only by the vesicles by by vessels But also by peeps grey pips And also presses and natural presses So back to the question um Greek grapes yes they are old They they have been carrying the same Names and they are Many of them they are genetically very Close to the grapes that Um our predecessors used to cultivate And that really depends on how how open Its region was to to change Changes in the habitat and some Some areas were able to maintain Their habitats and have a slow Pace of evolution and one of them is Santorini So um and that’s That’s andorini here i’m showing to you This is a beautiful picture By a very well-known photographer Of the 30s and 40s in greece is a lady Photographer Professional photographer nelly that’s Actually her Um her artistic name This picture and the negatives uh the Film negatives are now Um uh stored in an important museum in Greece the nike museum And uh this is the vineyard of santorini Very humble

You can see all the vines by the by the Ground by the sewing This is august i believe I have been in the exact location uh Looking over to that church And a couple of known wineries Are around there uh and it is a very Modest Uh view for anyone that has visited Uh it is striking that this um Powerful wine uh the the powerful white Wines acidic Wines of santorini come from humble Sort of vineyards like this so all Plants Um are by the soil They grow in baskets That they are kept by the ground to Avoid Harm by the winds and maintain humidity Santorini is a is a volcanic island the Volcano sandorini is Active it’s dormant but active so in the Mornings uh Once uh in the island you will notice That there is A fog a smoky fog that goes Over the island and the island the the Um the living parts of the island The houses uh are uh overlooking the sea Overlooking the steep cliff At about 300 meters so you have a very Good view Over the the volcano so the center of

The volcano is in the sea The eruption of the volcano back in 1600 Bc Has caused the one island to split into Four smaller islands Then you’re able to see that fog that Comes up which is a combination of the Volcano smoke And evaporation of the sea water so this Cloud this multicloud this fog is is What Um maintains also the vines uh allows Some humidity To nurture the vine the reason the uh The soil of santorini is arid it’s Volcanic Dry mineral and arid there’s no water in Sandorini one of the Difficulties on the island is that water Needs to be to be transported from Mainland And that is why uh agricultural Production uh has been um Limited in terms of quantity but Exciting in terms of quality that Lag lack of irrigation makes everything Grown on the island Really tasty including some other pdo Products not just the The grapes also small tomatoes And fava beans and capers so These are fantastic local products of Amazing Quality taste quality so

A silticon is now world famous is a is a Great Native to santorini uh has offered Amazing example Examples through um the work Through passing uh the uh The the relay uh the button from one Generation to the other Through uh talented winemakers visionary Winemakers Uh has established its its power Uh as a world-class [Music] Grape for wine making and now it is an International grape So um so we have a circle here Um which as we said is the native grape Of santorini but has been taken outside Santorini Over 35 or so years ago is now grown all Over greece But also the proximal mediterranea as Far um As far as i know it’s grown and now it’s Give gives commercial labels in lebanon I have heard it’s been grown in turkey Uh Knowingly it’s been growing in clare Valley in uh In australia uh south africa California and so on so on Grape that maintains it’s a well-trained Grape And i’m sure its habitat is natural

Habitat has played a role in that So it’s a grape that maintains High levels of acidity it’s very Resistant to Drought and disease and has Um a relatively thick skin That is protective also supplies a Good amount of nice tannins to work with For the wine maker But i think it’s it’s sort of quality Lies in the high levels A good body a good level of sugars Alcohol potential High acidity really and resistance It’s an early ripening so harvest Happens in august And we are going to see two examples of That Um in a minute and just an overview of Ayurvedic which is the second Grape i have chosen uh which again Is is the um uh the Um backbone of red wine in greece Uh it’s a typical mediterranean Grape um capable of giving Pleasant wines with a good amount of Tannin good amount of body Fruitiness red red Fruit character again has some Resistance in disease good and good Resistance in disease it’s not um Totally um It is a little vulnerable but It’s not completely

Immune but has a good resistance to Disease Has again large sized berries as a Certical A good amount of tannins and This one has been grown on the mainland Originally on the plateau of Again has been sort of dispersed Throughout greece And um now mainland uh Obviously is a place where a lot more is Happening Movements of um of Population more active trades Less defense less natural defense So the grape has seen Different practices and we have a good Number of clones identified of this Grape so the Grape is a plant that propagates and Changes Very easily so we have 260 cloves of That And now there has been An effort there has been a mission by a Nursery that is based in the area I need to say that anemia is the largest Video area of greece Is really the uh the sort of heart of Greek wine With over around 45 Around 45 wineries commercial wineries And just under 4 000 hectares And the nursery there is trying to

Identify and clean And clarify clones of a year yetico so They are passed to the next generations Clean of disease Plants can be affected by disease By viral diseases and this goes into Their dna so the nursery tries If you like to purify some strands that Can be more can be ideal for wine making Can be more suited for wine making And they have they have a name to work With six Clones i think they have possibly Finalized One at the moment but there is uh there Is some work Um under underway in that front But i just wanted to point out here that We have a certicon Quite pure on one hand and not that many Clones Has stayed in a very sort of secluded Place An arid place and difficult place and Then we have A land grape a mainland grape That has seen a lot more transformation And gives a lot more styles As well being a red wine i think you can Give more styles Anyway uh in regards to wine making So that’s that’s an overview of the Grapes we are seeing today And that’s the central part the central

Map of greece here So the wines i’m showing to you today They come From that core of of Mainland greece um so we don’t have Anything from the islands today We are very much into the central Area of greece so our first two wines Come from central greece One comes from the northern part of avia I don’t know if you can see my cursor Here Uh great so evia is a large Island people think that it’s actually Part of the mainland but it’s truly it’s An island it’s the second largest island Of greece after crete It’s a piece of land that interestingly Is sort of formed by the side of the Mainland I would consider myself greece as a as An island as a big island Uh with smaller islands and so it’s so Um rugged and caved and laced I would consider greece as an island Myself but anyway we have Here this island avia uh That lies on the side of the main body Of the of the country And um there is a strait here Are very very uh active um In terms of winds and and water currents Straight Um so all the straights around greece

Are Quite active uh same goes with a gulf of Corinth here There are very interesting currents Um and they can you know that You you won’t believe that in such Proximity of land you can have Really tremendous weather but you can They can be a Nightmare for sailors these uh these Traits So uh this volcanic island I’m getting there this volcanic island Um Of evian shows big differences of there Are between the north and the south It’s surrounded by sea which allows A good circulation of of wind And our winery lies here in the north In an area that is known for volcanic Activity because we do have Spas and we do have thermal water Coming nearby so our winery Is located here we are going to see a Better map in a minute Um and then we have a well-known Spas across to the mainland and Onto the island as well at ipsos and Camera And then the second winery where the Natural wine is coming from Is from up north from the mainland here Where we have mountainous volumes Mountainous masses

As they come down from the balkan Peninsula and they Sort of they sort of con um uh come Together here And they create planes they create lakes They create Um water uh reservoirs and rivers Unfortunately we had a storm recently Quite Uh fierce storm that has caused damages In the area Just shows you know the mountainous Character and the volumes of water that Can be Sort of um drawn into this area So this is where our certificates are Coming from and then we have Two ayurvedics from nema which is the Heart Of a hierarchical grape and the main Video region of greece Which is down here on the northern part Of the peloponnese On the plateaus and the slopes Uh of of the main valley of I suppose suppose is a river it is an Ancient river And on the valley of the river and Other smaller valleys and smaller rivers We have The vineyards of emma um sort of Extending so Going into a certicon the asserticon Wines that we are going to taste from

The central greece So central greece i don’t know if anyone Has visited There is one location that i think Everyone has to visit If if anyone makes a trip to greece Before anything else I think um i would recommend visiting Delphi And second i would recommend visiting Epidors theater And then i can suggest various other Things islands and so on so this is Delphi If you have um heard of uh Of them it’s a location where delphic Um feasts were happening in the ancient Times Is where the oracle of delphi and apollo And pithea was located so all the Oracles Um some of them are known Uh or the main oracles the important Ones were coming from this spot It’s a beautiful spot that is um i i Think it just Makes uh creates a move to everyone that Will sit In that location because it’s a it’s a It’s an Elevated point uh within a plateau And uh impressive mountains all around I think it’s really a unique place uh So this is and what’s up ancient greeks

Thought that this is uh the belly button Of the world Of their world anyway so for forensic Greeks This was the belly button of earth at That time we thought earth was also flat But uh anyhow just shows the energy this Place has So we’re in central greece there and This Is where the first winery is we said is The North part of the avia island it’s an Amazing location because we have two Straits it opens up Almost to the exian on one part On one side and then to the straight of Uripos On the other side and within really A few kilometers a few kilometers and a Visual contact You have operatics to both sees so you Can Really see both seas looking at Different directions it’s it’s an Amazing piece of land A very good um very good training Because it’s on a slope very good Exposure to Uh to sun and very good wind Air circulation so it’s ideal for wine Making So that’s uh our first wine That i have here it’s considered one of

The best Circles outside santorini the vintage i Have is a 2018. It’s also one of the first asilticos i Have tasted myself A long time ago and now the wines i have Today They they are propped in alcohol Because we have a certico which is a Grape that has a High alcohol potential and here we have Two Examples of good wine making of ripe Grapes So we have here 13.6 on this wine And there’s no oak influence here But there has been a maturation on the Lease on the finalists For six months it’s a really full-bodied Um reads uh wine And um it’s a nice contrast to the Very mineral uh volcanic sandorinian so It’s a little bit more elegant but with Good body Uh good intensity and complexity of Flavors So a little bit more about the winery on This uh sort of opportunity The winery works on mainly on native Grapes and One of the grapes they work on which is An exclusive sort of grape for them it’s Very annoying red grape So it’s the only winery that works on

Them and um It’s a it’s a grape variety and a wine That We also work with radiant it’s very Interesting Um unusual Red grape um and um the winery is a Family winery It’s a small to medium sized winery with An output of around 120 000 bottles and they are very Considerate In their cultivation and wine making um So that’s that’s our conventional Let’s say uh considerate a certico and Then We have a natural assertion from across Uh onto the mainland from where our um Um our marker is uh which is called itza We have a view of the vineyard on the Left in spring Uh the vineyard is obviously the one That has been fenced Uh in the distance uh we are here at About 300 Actually the altitude is very similar on Both sides we are at about 350 meters of Altitude On both sides um but obviously You know you it may seem they may seem The two vineyards very close to each Other Um there is a lot of uh in between It doesn’t look like on the map but

Greek land is very diverse And i i think it you need to visit to Understand that Um it’s so diverse and what looks Flat on the map looks a matter of Maybe some kilometers and it’s not Because you have to travel Down uh the hill and up The hill in the mountains and so on and You have to go around Rivers and lakes and so on so it’s it’s Not a simple affair It’s not a simple thing and so we’ve got This Um uh organic winery here That was established in 1991 so the Wineries the most of the wineries i’m Presenting today Three out of four they were established In the 90s so this winery Got organic certification 1991 they were The first um one of the very first i Think they were the first that obtained Organic certification for cultivation of Vines in greece And they are working on about 11 Hectares of vineyards Is now a new generation that works on The vines And uh we are in an area that um Mountains area uh On the north of cardita um town That is called avrafa uh and agra Mountains and agrapha means

Non-chartered Uncharted and that is because during Ottoman rule It was um so difficult to access because Of that Mountainous terrain that administration Has almost forgotten them they haven’t Charted them they couldn’t collect Taxes they left them alone they thought There wasn’t much to collect there There wasn’t much uh perhaps uh Cultivation or product To to tax um It just shows that you know in a way it Is a pristine area it continues to be a Pristine area still And so they work um very gently on the Land with low yields Um everything is done manually Cultivation and harvest is done manually Wine making again is made in small Batches With um with native yeasts and They don’t use press so everything is With Gentle sort of effect on them on the Grapes And gravity and and Then they bottle they they create Natural wines So all the wines have small amounts of Um Of in intervention very very little And small amount of sulfites added on

Bottling and they have a series From which this wine i’m showing today Comes from which is Zero sulfide so they have sort of um Stretched uh the limit of the wine Making Uh by securing very very healthy grapes Well ripe grapes uh very good conditions In the In the winery it’s not easy i mean it’s Not it’s not impossible to make a Natural wine especially in places that Are blessed Are meant for that but also you need to Be very careful because there are risks So you have to maintain a good a good Ecosystem in the vineyard You have to maintain a clean um [Music] Winery as well and not sterile But but not allowing things that could Pose a risk could harm Uh could inoculate the vines with the Wrong Microorganisms um so And they have managed working on four Varieties In that native varieties to create zero Sulfites um Zero sulfites uh wide [Music] I have these there are certicos so there Are certico is is A vintage of this year so it’s a new

Addition to their portfolio Uh it’s showing beautifully beautifully It’s a fourteen percent uh ascertico so We are as we said Well extracted here well ripe grapes Um uh you can see there is a little bit Of skin contact here So they allow there are no there’s no Press but they do allow the skins Uh to stay for for a little while for um A few hours not actually no not hours uh A few days but not not excessively maybe Four or five days Um in the juice to extract some of their Tannins and fennels In uh so it’s a beautiful beautiful um A has um it’s a dryer certicle but The ripeness of the grape comes through So it has this Sort of warm Notes i wouldn’t say sweet i will call Them warm notes And and it has a Taste of um Ripe citrus citrus peels And lots of stone some stone Fruits nectarine in particular and Peach and has also A mineral backbone not a type of Santorini’s Backbone so more elegant more lime Limey one rather than the sort of Bold uh lava Minerality of santorini so that’s

Our second ascertico so some people are Able to taste that and i would like to Hear your comments how do you find that Um so and then We move to nemia and the ayurvedicos So here uh we are at the heart Of more or less at the heart of greece Quite centrally In terms of you know the the uh Greek territory but also in the heart of Greek wine as we said the largest video Region of the country and the largest Plantation of aguirre utica in one space So the the pdo region Is divided into sub-regions And those they also include different Uh locations and different different Villages So it’s quite a um a widely sort of Spread Region so we have smaller valleys Because the main river i suppose has Obviously branched rivers Smaller rivers branching out and We have all altitudes up to 900 meters But for the Pdo we count from 300 to 900 meters but We have all altitudes as you can Uh guess so we have the main uh Plateau the main valley nemia valley is Where the town of nemia Is found and we have sub-regions and you May Have come across taking um

Various wines from the area some wine Makers they put down The actual location of the binary so you May Have seen some of these names here so we Have cootsie galatas I use dimitrios idona petri all in the Main valley And then we have the ancient cleoness Which is more to the north We have the ants in the mail i will show You one of our wines comes from there Um this is where um the ancient Very well-known city of nemea was Located and Very well known nimian games very Similar to the olympic games There were a number of such games in Ancient greece greece so it wasn’t just The olympic games There were also nimian and eastmian And sikionian games Uh so we couldn’t keep all of them in Modern times We had to zoos and then we have Leondio as pro campus which is Uh quite high and it’s actually An area that uh it snows quite often In the winter so in the same in the same Region the same pdo There can be in one time at any one time A difference a temperature difference Within the same video Of up to 15 degrees of celsius

So we can have snow in one part of the Video And we can have just a temperate winter Weather In another part and then we have que Palari climendi malandreni which is more South uh and east we are actually in a Different Uh um administrative region and zero Cambus And um about 20 percent of the vineyards Are at a good altitude of 500 meters So the central valley uh it’s off the Main Uh town of nemia it has A good concentration of wineries this is Also where the cooperative The once mighty cooperative of the Region is situated Has a good number good concentration of Wineries Different ages different Wine making styles different production Output And then we have different Altitudes at around 300 meters is Is um the standard for the region and The wine i’m going to show you the first Of the two red wines the geriatrical Wines Comes from a single vineyard which is Just off the winery is in that Region but the one year the plot is just Off

Across and at a higher altitude of 700 Meters And the weather is continental With medium precipitation there So the first year utica i’m showing to You uh Comes from a family winery it was Established in 1997 By a winemaker that in a way wanted to Create something different In the region and as i said The region provides a lot of The well-known red wine of greece or Used to Has a reputation all over greece so it’s The one name that everyone knows about Wine In greece uh nami and wine and it’s Quite interesting because Once i have visited um a winery In another well-known region for Red wine in greece uh in the north and Um i was shocked to see that just up The road from this winery there was this Merchant that was selling Wines of nemia like from completely Another Another uh part of the country it’s like It felt like a conflict there quite Interesting those I thought there wouldn’t be any market There if they have enough of their own Very good Red wine so there shouldn’t be any

Market just shows how Um how that brand that um Marketing name has sort of worked Throughout their Throughout the country very mean uh name So Uh here in emea um we have a standard Style Which is um moderate Um moderate maybe a little bit over ripe I would say that traditional style Is well ripe fruit and then Matured in butter for about 12 months So this is the traditional style but Then Winemakers have started experimenting With different Different harvesting times Different fruit quality and Different maturation times as well So different styles interestingly sprang Out um And sort of i think they enriched that The style of mnemia Overall so the winemaker here Came in with a view to produce very Extracted wines Not just the medium sort of extraction And good presence of good Flavors in the wine but rather Very solid fruit and then an interaction With A more gentle interaction with uh with Hood

With a barrel um and he sort of produced Very extracted um styles In the way of perhaps californian wines Or or super tuscan wines Um people think that a georgia grape Has similarities with san giovese Perhaps with tempranillo With cabernet cabernet fran uh just To put it in place of course we have to See Every wine for what it is so i’m not Saying you know we should Necessarily um sort of um Draw parallels parallel lines but it’s a Good way to To understand the grape so the Mia i have here is a 2014 is a 14 Alcohol it’s a single vineyard at 700 Meters Of altitude uh very purply Still 2013 but a very perfectly Deep color and has been in barrel Not first used new barrel but not first Use second and third use For 18 months so it’s a well made Wine and it’s a A typical new new era So that’s that and from that Well extracted wine we are going to an Even more extracted wine on the on the Fourth example Uh so here we are in ancient nemea So we are away from the main valley uh We are if you like laterally we go

Towards the main Uh the main motorway And this is a beautiful part i think of The region Um whereas the um temple of sius So the main temple there is dedicated to Zeus and this is where a Stadium exists uh to date where the um Games the nemean games Um uh took place the winery i’m showing And the wine i’m showing today here Um is a relatively new winery it was Established In 2007 and This is an area that has big names as Well or at least one big name around the Corner So in a way you’re making wine under um You know in the shade of a big name And i will i will reveal later what the Big name is Um but it’s an organic winery Uh so it’s um it’s very nearby the Papayuana winery I can reveal now and which is also an Organic winery And they sort of they were established With a view Again to work on their own fruit so they All the fruit comes from their own state Um And they have uh working uh on the Production Of a natural a geriatric unnatural video

Anemia for a few years Uh personally i’m I know the region and i come not I come quite you know close from where The region is Is found and But uh the way i i found out about the Winery was through my dentist Who was recommended and then uh my Interest was sort of i um was Was um caught by the fact that they were Working on the natural On the natural mia and this is a zero Percent sulfites and they are not just Natural but they They have managed uh to bottle without Sulfites And i have to say here that on my Discussions with um With father papayuan who has now passed Away i can tell that Um that an old winemaker that started His winemaking just after the second World war He had as a vision he had as a as a name Um the the That that feat of producing natural Uh wines without sulfite just for his Own satisfaction So i just want to tell you that other Than A trend nowadays i think very Um winemakers with dedication they want To challenge themselves

Into um into this um Sort of field producing really healthy Grapes And trying and and producing uh Valid wines with with the minimum of Intervention And he was very glad to tell that he was Very near to do that So uh the the other wine makers so just To to show that you know it’s a quest That you know the winemakers May be having that we don’t know about Is a new generation that sort of pushes That That barrier but um some old wine makers They have been Working thinking dreaming about that That’s nicely coming into place And so this ayurvedic Is almost 15 percent of alcohol It expresses the grape in a very Interesting way It sort of shows the sour cherry and Licorice side of the grape in an amazing Way The hood has been it has been matured in In Used barrels oak barrels shows very Little It’s a wine that can be opened and drank In a month’s time Amazingly without sulfites just shows The concentration So i would really like to know for for

Those who have the wines How do you you know how do you find them And what do you think so this 2016 that i’m having here was the first Video in the mia And first zero percent survival that was Produced Really interesting and compact uh wine So and with that i think we are Sort of drawing today um to the end Of this presentation and just wanted to Bring up some questions uh Around this uh this discussion So conventional or natural I think they are both valid I think the overall Vision of the winemaker is important i Think the most important here Is harmony with a vineyard Harmony of the vineyard with the outer Habitat Harmony of the winemaker with a vineyard And of course uh we sort of Look at the wine from the conventional Point of view as well But i think this has to be in in harmony As well With everything else so i think when When the elements Are sort of co-existing in a creative Dialogue Uh this is where we get the most Um so all the elements they they should Not

You know they should coexist in a Creative dialogue rather Rather than overshadowing one another And there is indeed um a a modern Quest for more sustainable cultivation And i think you know we have seen A need in our uh sort of bigger life You know in the wider world We have seen some limits Limits environmental limits and We are looking also for taste purity uh I think we can sort of keep that as a Guy As a guidance we can keep this as a Compass uh There’s no harm in in utilizing uh Technology That uh is considerate uh i think it’s a Very good thing that we have Now tools and we can go round Difficulties Problems diseases it’s a fantastic thing It’s just that That as well has to be in harmony uh With everything else that has existed And hopefully will continue to exist And the zero percent sort of camera Chemeric quest zero percent sulfites It is very much possible it is possible For greek wine And greek grape varieties because they Have that concentration many of them are Grown In in arid under arid conditions they

Are Very sort of well trained grapes are Very Uh healthy so if the yield is controlled Um and if conditions are controlled Uh i think it is more than possible i Mean i’m Now i’m amazed by the number of wines i Have found Uh zero percent and showing beautifully As well it’s not just That we we managed to bottle something With zero percent sulfite is just That it’s it’s complete and it is It is it continues to develop healthily In the bottle So it’s not it’s not a finished product And survives and survives well So i would say it is very much possible And we can have beautiful examples um If if this is what you know somebody Wants um So yes so i have um i have Made credit i have offered credit to Wherever Uh photographs of um that were not mine This is mine But wherever they were not mine i have Given credit on this presentation and i Would like to thank the school very much For this opportunity The greek wine makers for all the hard Work And their visions and kudos wines

Is a is an online greek wine shop that Has put together this This pack and also everyone that has an Interest in wine I think you know as i said previously i Think Wine is part of the diet should be part Of our lives And is is a fantastic way way to trade Train also our taste so Thank you very much to all Thank you maria that was really Interesting And i think the thing we don’t often Get an opportunity to consider or Compare directly different wine making Approaches to the same variety Especially i think greek great varieties Which maybe we don’t necessarily Think about the extent of natural Winemaking going on over there So yeah wonderful um I think there are a few questions that Came up during if you’ve got a bit of Time to hang around Absolutely yes yes i’m having a look at The chat now Oh fantastic it’s a