Still wines of Portugal: a trip from north to south with Dirceu Vianna Junior MW

Okay good afternoon uh good evening well Morning wherever you happen to be Welcome to the next in our series of Webinars Uh i’m julia from wset school london um I’m merely here to facilitate this Evening we’ve got a uh An excellent uh presentation for you Tonight we’re looking at The stillwines of portugal a trip from North to south Uh portugal is an area i know a lot of You are interested in And excited for so um yeah Should be a good hour for you and we’re Going to have a bit of time for Questions About halfway through so if you do have Some questions we’ll have a little pause Then and at the end And this is all going to be recorded um So you can Review it afterwards um but that’s about It for me so uh pass you over to junior And let’s get going Thank you thank you and welcome everyone As i said there’s truly Humbling to be speaking to a truly Global audience and that’s thank you to Wac for the opportunity and for julia For putting everything together And the whole team also thank you to Sophia salvador from wines of portugal Who gave me

Helped me with all the new stats so We’re going to have some fresh stats Coming up From wines of portugal and the ivv And also thank you to to my wife who put The Slides together so i’ve got the the best End of the deal which is sit down with You Have a nice conversation about Portuguese wine And enjoy a good glass or Maybe two of portuguese wine Something that i’ve been uh i’ve been Studying since i started my My um my past and wine studies at wct Since Early 90s and i became a master of one In 2008 And from 2009 2010 i really Uh enjoy more and more wines from Portugal I’ve been judging competitions all over The world The countrywide awards international Wine space competition and I am lucky to be a member of a small Panel That decides uh who are the best wines Of portugal Every year so that gives me a great Overview about Where portugal is in terms of quality in Terms of consistency

And so on and also i write Regularly for publication in portugal so I think i’m I have i don’t know everything there is To know about portugal but there’s so Much to know And i travel there often or i used to Travel there very often But it doesn’t matter how often you go To portugal there’s Always something something new something Different that’s a new variety Which i’ve never heard of before so it’s Truly interesting And and i hope you enjoy the next hour What i’m gonna do is I i’m gonna this is the formula i’m Gonna use i’m gonna talk about The area uh what is planted describe the There Are a little bit mention the most Important Grape varieties uh tell you a little bit Of styles of the wines that are Made in such areas and maybe share a Knowledge or some story or something That you may not even see in books My own experience so i want to start i’m Going to Give you that overview of portugal At the beginning and then go area by Region by region and And more or less using the same same Formula

So it’s quite orderly so if you have a Question feel free to ask and um And julia will have a break uh halfway Through and And for questions and we’re gonna have More questions that i can help you at The end Okay so i hope most of you know Uh where we are is it’s the Southern part of europe in iberia Peninsula In western parts and portugal Is um [Music] In terms of size we’re looking at a Country which is Sort of 220 kilometers From east to west and 560 kilometers from north to south To give you an idea it’s uh it’s 92 000 Kilometers squares what does that mean It’s uh uk is to give just to come to Make a comparison uk is Two and a half uh times Larger than portugal and france is Seven uh and a half times larger than Portugal portugal is quite a small Country in terms of Vineyard area there are uh 1 190 000 hectares planted Just again to give you a comparison uh If we Compare with bordeaux there are 120 Hectares planted in bordeaux it’s

Slightly bigger than Bordeaux and Climatically portugal is very diverse We have atlantic influence From the west there’s a lot of Rainfall and cooling influence from the Sea from the west And the temperatures here are more Moderate in Towards the border with spain in the East there uh is the time is more Continental There’s more uh diana Uh changes of temperature and basically The nights are Cooler and and during the day it’s quite Hot It rains less and uh I think it’s fair to say the portugal is Cooler in In the north roughly uh the average Temperature there Is 16 degrees on annual Average and in the south is slightly Warmer 17 degrees so Just to see an overview of the climate Of portugal And in the south is dry and hot in more Mediterranean and mild Mild winters and that’s Basically the overall climate and i’m Talking i’ll talk more precisely about The climate as we go down to Different regions

Soils uh people often talk about soils And say okay Dorothy’s chest and and paradise clay And so on and so forth In reality there is a wealth of soils in Portugal There is this map i think illustrates How diverse it is and also this map Shows you how the soils in even in one Region how they coexist So you’ll be surprised i’m sure you Learned something even about the door Because everyone thinks door will shift When you get to the door I’ll tell you a little bit more and There is more than chest But just to give an idea there’s a Wealth of soils and They coexist in many many regions To add to divert to this diversity of Portugal We have this wealth of Grape varieties i’m not going to talk Too much about history But portuguese was under detective Dictatorship Between 1932 and 1974 So it was isolated but the good thing About it is that This diversity was preserved and this Diversity Which has been selected over many many Centuries And the grapes there are well adapted to

Some really arranged some really Hot conditions that portugal has And also uh i’ll speak a little bit About genetic diversity Um in terms of clonal Variations and i think you’ll be Interesting but i’ll talk a little bit More about The varieties as we go along um This is this the the Most updated uh statistics that i I was able to get from the ivv which is The institute of vine And wine they haven’t released the Nearest Stats which was supposed to be done a Few months ago this is from last year But this is the This is the most updated and i Assume not much has changed you may find Some of the varieties going slightly up Or slightly down But the order that you you see in here You will not Change very much so the Main variety here is is tempranillo in Spain For those friends of us who are in Barcelona Is the same as tinta ruiz or agones in Alexis saint variety the same name Second variety is torica franca then to Riga nacional And in fourth you have phenom periods

Which is the which is the first White variety i put the you can see the Slide the green are the white varieties And the reds are red varieties so and so On and so forth and you got go Which also is known by the name of Johann the santorin In pirikita and In sixth position you have trinkadera Then baga which is Closely associated with the region of And lorrero which is a wide variety from Mostly from the north of portugal Arento and then you have the first truly International variety which is Sierra the good news i get some good News for you guys today you’re gonna Like this some of you who don’t know But portugal i know it’s difficult to Pronounce many Many varieties if you’re not english Speaker Also it’s more confusing because you get Some varieties which is you can see on The screen And pirikita which is the same same name As a synonym And if even if you look at most Books in the subject There are many many different names Local names that we use the good news The good news is this i think From since early 2000 the ivv Simplified a lot and

Most of the varieties they only have one Name now so it’s easier for us to study There but there are a few for example The tim taro is a recognized which there Are of two Official names but in most cases you Will find One and that’s i think it’s a relief for Most of us who Study wine so Completing the whole thing you have 250 Varieties You have a diversity of soils You have the human factor you have uh Very experienced winemakers luis pato And dick nearport some of the older guys Shouldn’t say all this are more mature More experienced But also you have younger guys you have This The daughter of of respa philippe you Have the Son of dominguez who’s thiago uh Obviously What i’m saying that there is experience There but there’s also some fresh Blood so the whole thing great varieties Diversity of Diversity of climate human factor And i’m not even talking about clonal Variation which i’ll tell you in a Second but also Altitude different exposures so you put This

All together and gives what i really Love about About portugal which is this this Diversity and To start talking about this diversity we Start right In the north of portugal talking about The region of vino verde It’s when i was studying um i remember The innovator for me was a small area In corner of north West of portugal and that’s it and there Are some lovely fresh wines Some very commercial wines and things That they have changed a lot Um first of all it’s not a small region And so it will surprise uh Many people uh to know that The border it actually goes from the From from the spanish border in the North All the way going past the doro Almost almost not touching the city of Porto So it’s a very very large area it Actually goes South of porto and south of the river so It’s really Is from from north to south is 130 Kilometers And from west from the atlantic ocean From the uh from the atlantic ocean to The east is about 90 kilometers so it’s a quite large area

In this area now we talk about white Wines by until the 70s It was red wines dominated It is a large area you can see there is 21 000 Almost 22 000 hectares the main Varieties here is albarino Uh treasure dura arento Which is also is known as pedena Locally lorrero and another variety Which is The only red there which is called Vigneon but there are more that’s for Example there’s a variety called A variety which is a white there’s Another variety called Vessel which is also white and there are Other things that they used to make Rosette which is called padero and Padero And there is one variety which you to Make red wine which i think we will be Hearing more Of which is Which is reminds if you if you if you Vinified Uh gently you almost remind me a little Bit of Pinot noir which is great wine and Something i Think people will be surprised to know That uh when you’re talking about Exporting wines we think of uh dora But the first region actually to export

To england In the 14th century was venue verde Which could which i think may surprise Some of you The reason for that is that um a town Called vienna castello It was a british commercial base so that We started Importing wines and out of all the Varieties while i still have a little Bit of time i’m going to talk a little Bit about some of the Varieties which i enjoy the most and one Of them is alvarena Someone once um when i was when i Started to study they described alvarez Not not technically i’m talking about The profile Of uh the profile is has the Aromas of the onions sometimes uh and The Freshness and the acidity of riesling I’m not so sure But uh i would certainly recommend Alvaren for people who like Vionia people who like riesling people Who like chanel blonde People like bruno vetlina And people like albarino from spain Even cortez from italy i think those Those wines uh If you like those wines you should try Alvarez lovely Depending on the style but the lovely

Citrus fruits and orange peel And peach and passion fruits and Sometimes fresh apple and the wines uh They ate great they aged gracefully uh I’ve tasted some other They are over 10 years old they they are Wonderful Beautifully beautiful wines great ones To have with Fish and with seafood with pasta with Rice dishes with salads So if you like some of those wines i Mentioned try Alvarez you enjoy it Um genuine verdi is a large area as i Described earlier Earlier i i told you the boundaries so I’m not going to repeat myself Uh it’s quite a humid area In terms of rainfall it rains about In average 1 200 millimeters annually Is to compare with bordeaux it’s about 920 so it’s more humid than bordeaux The soil here is mostly granite there’s A bit of sand Also there are two bands of slate from Northwest To the southeast of the ridge that cut Across that as i said here at the Beginning The soils coexist and here this is an Example There are very small holders in this Area uh

Let’s if you you can look at some uh Some of the Statistics from this uh this cvr Of menu um Which is uh Very very small i think there’s 129 000 parcels so it’s very small holdings And there are this if you go there All the vineyards if you see Polyculture people having animals and Vegetables And corn all grown together that wasn’t That was in the past today things are Changing the wines are being planted on Wires And in plots in different varieties And one things i’m going to talk about Styles of wine I said to you when i was studying you Had those Um stylistically people describe University as Wines with a bit of residual sugar a Little co2 They still exist but since the 80s the styles became drier And we see more and more Varietal wines you have the Normal blend alvarinho treasure They do blends they still do but many uh Producers now are using Single varieties from a vessel And and so on and so forth and In the future those are the those are

The sub regions of vino verdi i don’t Want to complicate too much Um but i just want to tell you for Example Uh here in the north monsanto It’s um higher altitude It’s more sheltered from from sea It’s a little bit warmer in this area It’s Um alvaren it’s it’s the variety To makes the best wines if you go down Here In while the blue area in in in lima You have loredo and so on if you go Right down in the south here in bayern Here is a vessel our vessel is a variety Which is lovely freshness the wines have Been neutral But they age they can age well as well So basically It’s not everything everything is Planted in many places but In the future we’ll see more we’ll see More of a Variety uh to be matched with certain Terroir we’re already seeing that so You’re going to see when we talk about Average It’s going to be muslim gas so we’ll Talk about already it’s going to be from From the the from the valley of lima And so on and so forth um I mentioned in the 70s earlier the vast Majority of the wines were red

Today is the opposite 87 of what is Planted is white Uh only seven percent uh red and rose is About The balance six or seven percent So this is uh finivert Um and we move on to todoro And we can we have two wines from the Door We’ll taste them in a bit but um Dora is uh the whole area is about 250 000 hectares The whole eliminated area there’s What is planted is only 17 of what is What is boundaries are planted which is Is there on the screen 42 556 hectares There’s a lot of different great Varieties here Uh in total uh there are 115 or 116 approved varieties And i put in your screen here some of The most important Important ones team terrorists which is Tempranillo Toriga franca nationality baroque Tinta pinera soul zone which is the same Variety as vino In in the aluminium where we just work And then a couple of whites uh rabigatu Malva ziafina We also have varieties such as governor And Vegenu which is all the two other white White varieties

And I’ll tell you just a little bit that Quickly about tinta ruriz tintono is is A temporarily in spain so if you like Spanish Uh rioja or regular if you like san jose Things like that You should try a tinted release from Portugal Um and i I have been confused about in terrorism When you read depending on what books You read people tell you oh the grapes They have high acid they have uh low Acid Some have high implants some are low and So it’s quite confusing so I think why why is this and i was lucky To hear to do a master class in With a friend of mine sarah jane evans Master of wine And we in texas last year and it was Purely about tempranillo so i studied Quite in detail tempranillo And the reason for that is there is not One tip on you there’s Over 250 clones of tempranillo so you Really have to think You know why is why uh textbooks vary so Much in terms of Uh the structure of temporary some say It’s too firm something is High in acid and so on no it’s for Example if you want to if you want to

Plant a chlorine tempranillo Which is high in acid going plant 154 And so on so did they specific clones For certain certain Characteristics if you want a thicker Skin a thinner skin and so on and so Forth But tintaro is from from from the door It’s lovely and juicy lots of cherries And also raspberries In a warmer climates um in allegations Of Even darker fruits is a variety that Responds very well to To oak age as well as we know notes of Tobacco and vanilla and clove and Cedar and sweet spices Sometimes black tea tobacco or acetolia Earthy notes it’s a great wine to have With lamb with Beef with pork and so on so it’s a it’s Uh It’s i recommend tim terry’s from doro And doro is the oldest Demarcated and regulated area Uh wine producing area in the world and People People who are doing their diploma and And have studied And they’ll probably put their raise Their hand and say hey hang on a second Tokai uh has been democrated in 1737 and You’re right but here’s the trick they They they were demarcated but they were

Not regulated so Um marquez de pombau demarcated and Regulated door in 1756. It is an area i put here extreme Vikiculture it’s Those of you who have not visited you Should Visit this picture here credit to Jerome portugal ramos which is a great Producer in portugal that’s a One of his pictures would you share with Us Um you see that’s 53 of the venues in The door have an incline of 30 Or more it’s really really steep it’s Hard it’s very Hot it’s a lot of small properties there There are 25 to give you an idea there’s 25 000 growers And out of the 25 000 17 000 uh Own less than one hectare so it’s really Small property so they sell grapes and So on and so forth And it’s hot if you go there in summer Late 40s early late 30s 40 42 degrees and to work growing up Will step here with Weight on your back carrying grapes it’s Uh you have to admire those people it’s Amazing If you look at most textbooks you see Doro is about schist and i told you Earlier i’ll tell you something a little Bit

Uh different they may not see in books In fact there are more than 60 Different geological formations in in Doral And i’ve seen in some venues in the dawn Superior Soil that resemble uh chablis A complete white limestone soil So it’s quite shocking but you do find Quite a bit of granite especially Towards Uh where doro uh borders with another Region called vera interior But there are there is no holy and Even if we talk about schist I was talking to the winemaker from park Valley and he said oh we’re talking About shift but actually On their studies there are 16 different Types of shifts So it’s uh it’s as i said portugal Doesn’t matter how much you know the More you The more you study the more you need to Study and learn more about life every Time This thing about the shift i only Learned a few months ago i didn’t Realize that In terms of styles of still wine there Red wines in the past i thought a little Bit powerful a little bit Too well too structured but things are Changing now i think

You see even some of some of the red Wines coming down to Um 12 and a half even lower than that so It’s it’s just Styles are becoming a little bit more Elegant and this is what i like So we have a quick chat and one of the Ones i suggest people Could buy is the planalto Which is here If you guys don’t know this wine my First experience of this one i’ve i Tasted in In doro a couple of years ago i was on Holiday And i got there on a sunday and Everything was shut and i bought in a Small corner place and basically this One is available everywhere And i bought from majestic here in London and Uh and the price was amazing i said this Wine is such a phenomenal value for Money the guy said i know it’s it’s One it’s a great it’s one of the biggest Selling wines It’s 12 and a half percent alcohol is Fresh It’s vibrant and it is It’s amazing it’s it’s a blend of all White varieties that are grown in Portuguese fierce in your mother’s Diaphina Rabigato cordiga

Little bit of muscatel it’s a lovely Freshness Lovely acidity there’s no oak at all Just easy to drink And surprise it to be such for such a Warm region to have a wine that’s so Elegant and fresh and low in alcohol Um i’ll tell you briefly this is uh You you’ve probably seen this this is a A map that uh The institute of um vineyard Um share with me so i could Share with you it tells about the three Different regions Um uh sima corgo basha kogo in in Doro superior in The you have on the left hand side you Have doral which is about 80 kilometers West of here so here we have the The first region that’s slightly darker Is the For the slightly cooler area there’s There are 14 000 hectares planted there Roughly And then in the center you have the Sima corgo which is the heart of port Producing Areas i’m not going to talk too much About ports we’re talking about The steel wines but it’s It’s some of the best venus in portugal Uh From this area and when i was studying Uh

For my diploma and it they mentioned Quickly about um Daughter superior you’re saying it’s a Very hot region and so on And today you go there and some of the Best wines from portugal Some of the most iconic wines come from The doors of europe it’s a beautiful Region it’s very Wild it’s quite hard to get to but it’s Worth A visit it’s not very Not very widely planted it’s only it’s Less than ten thousand hectares planted But it’s it’s a wonderful region to Visit And we stop and talk about Another red wine i suggest you guys Taste it which is alterno Again i selected this point because it’s Tells about doral it’s it has a soul of Doro And it’s such a phenomenal value for Money and the The great varieties here um the Blend of uh toriga franca thirty-five Percent Turrigan astronaut there’s a little bit Of alicante boucher Uh tinta baroque and tinta ruris Uh tinta franca if You guys if you guys like uh shiraz if You like mobike if you like Merlot quinta franco is a great variety

It Doesn’t have the exuberance of the riga Nation now i spoke Beautiful silky texture very Sophisticated Got dark fruits some floral notes This one that i’m tasting here It’s very pure it’s exuberances lovely Notes of Cherries and plums some spices Uh it hasn’t seen very much oak only six Months And quite a bit of is 400 liters so it’s Larger oak And it the oak head hasn’t hasn’t marked The wine a lot So it’s for me it’s quite a it’s got Beautiful Purity of flavor uh if you guys i can Talk a little bit about the wine making Later but i’m i’m conscious that we’re Halfway through it i’m I don’t want to be rushing later on so I’ll just Move on to transduce montes Which is in portuguese basically means Cross uh behind beyond the mountains So you have to cross the mountains to Get these regions the romans has been There And they left evidence of winemaking They carved Some lagares in granite it is uh Not a small area that’s the small ridges

There’s 13 539 hectares of vineyards planted The varieties here you notice they’re Very similar to What you see in the door basically Almost an extension of the door Just south of here and you have Also you have here some chardonnay you Have a little bit of sauvignon Pino and sierra but the vast majorities Are portuguese Grapes the Terroir here we’re talking about um Beautiful as you can see in the picture Lovely undulating Hills and some forests uh Some olive grows fruit trees Uh the altitude here goes up to 700. There is a lot of variation in Temperature between day and night Uh it is hot and it’s dry there is very Little disease pressure Winters are very cold here there are not Many producers here probably about 100 Producers Not many uh there’s not much wines that Reaches Export market less than 20 But uh the region is mostly What’s made here is mostly red wines and As i said a little Almost you can draw some Some parallels with your door in terms Of style maybe a little bit

Fresher a little bit slightly more uh Higher acidity And a little bit more rustic i’ll say The pen is a little bit more Angular but uh it’s uh i think we’re Gonna hear more about treasures Mountains as We as we go in the next decade or so Then we go to byrada Obera atlantico a big authentic is the Whole Uh whole area it’s a big region and by Rada is Is i think what what the do Uh gop is and by radar where We talk about you talk about baga and Um the gop here it’s only vaga is only About 6 000 hectares so the whole the Whole Vineyard region now or igp if you guys Are studying for your diploma is is the Beta clinical and and the gop is by Rather Vast majority here is paga there is a Little bit of national of rochero And the whites is mostly phenomenal I’ll tell you quick i just want to talk A little bit about about Baga and um if you guys like nebula If you like stuffed with structure if You like uh Carignan if you like plaits mali from Croatia if you like sino marvel From greece why those wines with a bit

Of Grip try bugger it’s late Ripening variety it’s Thermal structure it’s got high acid Lovely nuts or red fruit plums some Cherries very assertive facility and It goes beautifully with the with the Suckling pig from bhairava if you’ve Been to bharat you must have drunk you Must have eaten your suckling pig And bhagat goes very well with it Anything oily and some oily stews Also from burger they make uh some Sparkling wines and quite interesting Um this region uh only received this deo In 1979 historically um It was an area where negotiant used to To be located so they buy Wine from all over portugal and uh Blend and then they sell out to export Markets so i think there was no one on The Interest to be to be Regulated so it came quite late only in 1979. In terms of geography here it’s Very low lowest altitude we’re not too Far from the sea here So you have a lot of sea influence uh if You talk to louis sparta he loves to Tell you that his Their area here is cooler than cooler Than bordeaux

Um the soils by radha is comes from the Word bible which is Clay but also you find some limestone Uh soils and the wine styles here as I mentioned the bagan earlier the ones Are more grippy And made to go with food Of this region of paratha we are In there down is Um [Music] Is protected by mountains you have in The west Two mountains one is called caramula and Busaco it used to have uh Navi and in the south you have australia So it’s quite It’s quite protected well protected the Varieties here Uh jain Two things i’ll talk about those two Varieties one is to read a nation now And the other one is is is vaga thriving So now Uh the highest diversity Uh genetic diversity is in down so People think That originated in in the down And it’s interesting to see it in the 19th century uh Turinas now made 100 of the wines from From the down And going back one century later in the 20th century basically

It was only making five percent so it Was this it was It was disappearing from this area and It’s at the same time To rigono he was Also losing area in the duro in 1970s he Only accounted for 0.1 Of the area so it was it was it was Going up it was disappearing And the reason for that it was very very Low yielding you get Less than less well less than a kilo Per plant and it was not financially Viable people start grabbing up and so On So people got together study it and came Up with some Different clones of toriga and since Then thankfully This has been reversed uh you saw the Regards i think If you go back to slides before i think It’s the third most planted variety So and it’s a wonderful variety if you Like shiraz if you like more back If you like pt syrah if you like those Flashy Football grown wines or even a cabernet Blend It’s it’s a wonderful variety it’s It’s the best known variety in portugal It’s it’s got great degree it makes Knowing Not only red wine mix um rose makes

Wonderful sparkling wines And beautiful notes of blackberries Cassis Violets bergamot and so on it’s Got very firm structure got a very Assertive freshness It’s a great wine to go go with food And um i think you don’t find that many 100 percent oregano you’d find obviously But they are mostly Seen in blends and the other variety Which What you go does extremely Well is a variety i many of you may not Even heard of it’s called encroazado i Hope you have heard But uh he has only been mentioned in Textbooks since the second World war so very new varieties it was Planted for a long time but was part of Mixed plantings So if you compare with that with Something like rocaccitelli From europe it’s which was mentioned in 580 So this variety is a baby and It was only started being micro vinified In the 50s and people start really Uh paying attention and planting in Little plots in Since the 90s so he’s a it’s a baby if You like white burgundy If you like chenin blanc if you like Bermudin or if you like

Some new world um more fruit forward Ones try Uh increasado um They tend to be a little bit neutral at Beginning of their lives by they evolve They evolve wonderfully so if someone Needs a little bit of time in a bottle Uh or they need to be aged in oak for a While but not Not to be overdone and they do In my opinion sometimes they can’t be Mistaken or mistaken but they can be Compared or associated with with a good Energy there’s got the virus got very Thick skin got good acidity Um the sugar that balance between sugar And acid is it’s great so the wines are Always Harmonious and lots of Uh stone fruits and melon passion fruits Sometimes floral notes Great point to go with seafood some oily Fish if you like baccala from portugal Croissant is a Pretty interesting variety for you to to Try and We are uh here we’re talking about you Talking about the doro so Then the down so it’s just south of the Door Uh 80 kilometers from from the sea Is also protected From the mountains You’re talking about uh if you go if you

Drive if you die South um or if you drive south And you get uh or porto and then you Then you turn uh inland you look at your Car if your car is You can tell the altitude it goes up From Almost nothing you can you can see the Going up in altitude And obviously then um you get A little bit more freshness uh you have Soils here more granite you get Chest also the vast majority 97 of the Soil is is granite You have a little bit of shift a little Bit of sand Um it’s warm it’s protected it’s less Humid than byrada Because it is god all the mountains i Think the mountains i mentioned earlier They are protected down And less humidity you have Higher variation of temperature between Day and night This variety here put a recent past Because this was this this region Um there was a lot of cooperatives in The past here And maybe reputation didn’t do very well For the reputation of The area but since the 90s there have Been New life private money new producers And the wines here are fabulous there

Are only four To the best of my knowledge there are Only four co-operatives left There’s about 120 130 Wine producers and if you speak to Producers in portugal Um you note when you ask them so what do You what do you like even from the door Which ones do you enjoy say i like when You’re not drinking wine from From the door or your own wines which Ones you really enjoy And most people like wine from and i Myself i have to say i have a soft spot For them i love wine from dora i love Wines from nino I love the exuberance of valentejo i Don’t once from down for me They have structure they have exuberance Of food always they have a lovely Vibrancy and lovely freshness which i Think there Is phenomenal um Try if you don’t if you you can get some Stuff from From there encroazado and to reagan so Now uh which are what i would recommend To you Going east we are in terrace debata It’s a area which is um Not such not so well known i think we’re Going to hear more and more about this Area There’s only 15 000 hectares planted

The varieties here mainly is a are Called roufetti which is the same as Quinta pinera in europe you Also have reds you have roufette Nationality in the franca also in the White you have Syria in a variety called font cow This area uh uh the climate here is Continental Very hot summers very cold winters And Soilless granite you find some sometimes You’re driving you’ll find those huge Boulders Around the area the altitude here Varies from roughly 300 it goes all the Way up to 700 very cool nights And slow ripening and you have some Consequently the wines are quite they Have that crunch the vibrancy And the freshness uh really really Assertive acidity from Wines from from perros the beta or The dlc’s uh interior Okay so i’m gonna have a glass of water See if there’s any questions Julia Okay yeah um lots of information so far Um i’ve been trying to keep an eye on The chat um There’s just a lot of appreciation going On for various excuse wines Um we can carry on our way to the end

Then well just one of the earlier Questions Um if i noticed was just about the Your very early slide on the um uh most Widely planted grape varieties And a couple of people expressing Surprise that albarino wasn’t included In that Is that just because it’s more localized Oh in terms of the most planted hmm Okay now it’s it is very localized Is is in nino it is uh planted Especially Specifically in in the in the sub region Of monsoon But you you see migration over he’s Being planted more and more In the in the atlantic part of the allen Key Where it is slightly cooler we’ll talk About that in a minute also is planted In lisbon And also planted a little bit in in Peninsula certainly but it’s not very Widely As i said it’s not even doesn’t even Make it Yeah i guess it’s one we’re just a bit More familiar with so i think um Yeah a couple of people were surprised By that Okay shall we carry on let’s do it So we are in uh now we’re in lisbon um It’s an area which is growing um

Plantains are growing i think If you look at the stats it’s probably One of the areas that planters are Growing Uh faster than any other region in Portugal There are 17 uh 989 hectares Many many many varieties planted are put Here Castellan paraguays But there are many many many more uh A lot of international varieties are Making their way into this area Um there are a lot of docs here Uh some one better known than others Uh they’re quite they tend to be quite Small i think the largest one here is The first one Which is allen kerr which is about 600 Hectares Then you get to two buselas is 140 Hectares But some of the stuff kolaris is only 17 Hectares so they are quite small Carca village is only 10 hectares um And i think the tendency here is to People Uh bottle uh wines under the vineyard Regional lisboa Uh as opposed to the dlc And the reason for that is this region Was um Known up to the 2007 By uh the name of estrella madura

And since then became lisbon I think people wanted to capitalize on The proximity to the capital and also Easier to pronounce easier easier name It’s been very successful It’s an area that financially i think Producers are doing Well but uh viticulture has been there Since Roman times and It’s been cut cultivation has been There’s The past also done by religious orders As was the case in champaign and so on And so forth The climate here is atlantic There is a lot of breeze coming from the West in Fog and uh consequently the Wines uh they say i want someone to set Up people from Certain areas of of uh This region so they don’t go to the Beach Until midday because basically it’s too It’s too cold it’s foggy and wait for The fog to lift off and temperature to To warm up so people don’t go to the sea What i’m saying is it keeps the Vineyards And consequently people say sometimes The Wines are here in portugal or vinolaves Light wine very fresh wine the areas

Here is a very It’s a very long and narrow strip West north of the capital there’s a lot Of different soils here you see Clay you see limestone you see a salt Low altitude vineyards some gently Undulated Um i mentioned the varieties but Also there’s some really quirky and Unusual interesting Varieties uh something called Vital which you’re gonna hear more about It people are getting excited about this Um jampal which is variety which i get Very excited if i have a tasting I can show jean paul i use because i Have a few bottles of my celery ones are Wonderful Another variety is called retinol which Is something unusual Basically you go to portugal you’re Going to learn something New on your varieties i haven’t even Faced some of those Some of those varieties we are moving to Tejor We’re in heart of the country you can See here on this map Um again with the culture has been here Since Roman times um Eleven thousand almost twelve thousand Hectares planted Um again many varieties i mentioned i

Put a Few of the most important castellan Trincadera Grenades and fernand pilish which is a Mostly planted white variety But there are sauvignon blanc chardonnay There’s also toriga nacho now there are Some Wonderful and wonderful alicante boucher And there’s some one some lovely really Old vines from 100 year old vines In this area it is an area which is Quite Quite hot there is 2 800 hours of sun on average every year Not this dissimilar to alentejo it’s Very sunny Uh it rains in average 750 millimeters But rain is not a problem they have big River to to help Irrigation if necessary but also not so Much the Irrigation is the river brings Freshness some cooling influence from The river And also the cooling influence that Comes from From from the sea to to refresh This this area i’m not going to get too Uh technical here because but there are Three subregions Uh one is called campo what is called Chaneka one is called viral I’ll leave it like that for now but uh

Stylistically the wines Are exuberant fruit forward And they tend to retain a sense of Freshness From what i said earlier from the Influence from the sea but they tend to Be more i think more I think it’s fair to say more new world And style Um it’s it’s a region that i think will Grow in terms of status because at the Moment only 20 of the wine that’s made there are uh Doc it’s a lot of powerpoint a lot of Regional wines Uh there’s some cooperatives which make A lot of wines to sell in bulk So i think the future this region is Towards higher quality and you see wines Peninsula turbo i think Most of you friends are probably as Guilty as i am You go to fly into lisbon if you’re Lucky then you go either east Or you go north uh i very rarely go South which is uh you should because It’s you all you need to do is if you’re In lisbon is to cross A bridge is uh the bridge 20th 25th of The 25th of april bridge um And you just then you are in this Wonderful area Of peninsula setuba

[Music] There are 7 265 hectares i could hear The main varieties Uh the main by far for red wine is Cashtellon and um Hotel cost alone in a minute because it Is it is a wonderful varieties Uh people think oh it’s a bit rustic but It’s not it’s not It’s not so i’ve written an article Recently Actually i’ll tell you about it now Since i’m telling you and i also Thought okay castellan’s variety is a Little bit rustic and so on so i went With an open-minded And in this area there are There’s a lot of sandy soils and old Vine cashed along From this sandy soils they are Phenomenal but they make some of the Most wonderful wines for portuguese People would never know about it If you like timpani if you like Sangiovese if you like Multiple uh even a grenade if you’d like To spell the wine Try a cast alone especially from from This area And from old mines and just along It can be quite rustic and In uninteresting if you if it’s high Yielding yes i agree And they can be they can make some

Lighter wines and easy to drink wines But they can make some beautifully Firmly structured wines Once to go food mushroom risotto Grilled chicken pasta dish some game It’s a wonderful variety but you have to Treat well Um that’s my My tip for you today discover castellan From old vines And in this area i mentioned so the flat Part is is mostly like the castellan And then you have some some hills uh Going up to 500 meters some more Calcareous soil And here we have more muscat and some International varieties Planted you have septum two deals Two dlcs suitable for fortified wines And palmella for Steel wines the geography of this region Is as i said flat And hilly sandy soils and crocarios You have mediterranean climate You have very hot dry summers you have Mild rainy winter And that’s i think that’s it and I don’t want to talk about fortified Wines uh By 10 seconds for those of you who have Not tasted Muscat tell the situa this is probably People talk about madeira being Underrated yes i agree

But uh i think uh uh some of the Musketeers do about 20 30 40 50 years old as some of the most Underrated one of the most amazing Fortified wines in People over very often Uh overlook so and the reason for me to Hear that is because they are such a Good value for money so Try it and we are in alentejo I’ll integrate it’s a large huge area Covers you can see here almost a third Of the country Um but only 25 544 hectares planted Many varieties are the most important Trencadera alicante boucher As a reds and then you have antalvage But you have many many many other Varieties you have Uh syrah to ignacional Um there over 60 varieties That planted there what else want to Tell you about palantejo i think this is It It’s basically from the border from the Pejora all the way When it hits it’s spain it is hot if you If you go to orientation in the summer It’s 30s mid 30s to 40s a lot of Sun sunshine 3000 hours sunshine it Rains Not very much 600 millimeters on average

Very little Disease pressure climate Is continental so if if in lisbon it’s It’s 10 degrees in the winter in Addition it’s minus five For example it’s really continental soil Is difficult to pinpoint It carries a lot i mean i remember being Sitting being visited one one one small Vineyard And you see like in alsace is once One spot you see many different types of Soil And alentejo is is saying to an extent I think it’s fair to say general And it’s only just like a new the new World In terms of style he received this duo In 1988 But when you dig deep you see many Different things you see the more modern Styles You look for producers such as coaches The sema Exuberant modern and You go into different producers such as Moshe Really traditional we see people making Wine from amphora So as in general people talk about new World but if you When you dig deep into this area you Have many many different styles It’s a really interesting area i always

Thought okay this is a very big And sunny area but when you go you take Dip You see you have uh you have 180 um Kilometers from north to south you have Many different there Here in the north for example in port Alegre you have very high altitude you Have Granite soils you have old vines So we talk about maori in chiles and Swat land in south africa being People going back in and and paying Attention to those old vines really Cool areas portolager is the equivalent In in alentejo i would say And you go here into into regangosh It is hotter it’s also got granite soils When you go into the vijaya you go You’ve got some more limestone it has Some clay I see someone who’s enjoying a glass of Water and It’s very famous from this area it’s Beautiful It makes wonderful wines here so what I’m saying alentejo From the distance is quite [Music] Easy to It’s understand many many many different There are it’s really interesting Uh region then we go down south we are

In In algonquin almost In the portugal in algarve here we are A small area 1352 hectares The varieties here are negro syria Which is a white and aren’t which is Also white And you have also the reds aside from Negra molly which is the same as In you find the madeira to make some of The moderato wines You have uh castellan aragones there are Four Dlcs in Uh we don’t see very much of those wines In Exports i mean they have a huge local Market there are nine million people Visiting agav every year so most of the Wines stay Locally the climate here is Uh mediterranean uh I think you can fail to say it’s almost Almost like an extension of alentejo 300 Very sunny 300 hours of sun every year Very little rain i have the sea Influence to keep it cool soils Very near near that the coast is more Sandy and you go inland it’s concarious And as you go towards the hills Is more chest and wines uh Again there is in terms of style but They are tend to be really fruitful Almost like an alien there’s more foot

Forward A little bit more uh perhaps more Alcoholic By they can surprise you don’t one day Someone sent me a bottle of wine to Taste Uh last year actually i said white wine From malaysia must be flat And it was a blend of ariento and um And chardonnay and it was wonderful Twelve and a half percent alcohol Fresh and crisp and wonderful really Surprising So they can surprise you so that’s Portugal Continental i’ll take you very quickly To Asaurus which is The same latitude as Lisbon roughly a third on the way from Portugal to To the usa rise were planted there since 16th century the whites are quite Famous until the 19th century when the Legion And luxor decimated their whole Area in 2003 the only Uh 120 hectares planted in this In this Island so you see that from 120 000 to 1708 hectares From last declared figures from the ivv I suspect if i have the figures from Next figures will be even higher

The reason for that in unesco uh the Whole area was It was declared a unesco heritage site In 2004 And a lot of investments have gone and If you haven’t visited this this is an Absolutely amazing area to To visit it’s really wild It’s really beautiful You can see in the pictures here the Vineyards are They’re all planted as very tiny plots Extremely labor-intensive they’re all Small plots they are built there that There’s some stone Stone walls oh it is this island island So it’s a volcanic soil So the oldest this little walls are Built by Volcanic rock and they the reason for That is To protect them from this from the wind From the salty Salty spray from from the sea and also It really helps to to Warm the vineyard and to achieve Ripeness but they are very tiny plots You can imagine how Labor intensive they are to build and Also how labor intensive it is To to farm in those venues so you have To admire people Who work in adorable just admire people Who work in this

Wonderful vineyards What’s planted here is aren’t those Asaurus which is not the same as there Into The continent And terrantis but there’s also other Varieties like aragonese Reds castellon and Another variety called saborino The climate here is Maritime as you can imagine the middle Of the ocean Very humid very unpredictable it doesn’t Get Very hot but it can go up to 30 32 sort of in the summer and Doesn’t get very cold in the winter sort Of single figures seven or eight i Suspect And it is labor intensive so the the Cost of grapes are quite high Last time i s it was about three Euros one kilo so the wines are not uh Inexpensive in this area as you can Imagine but they are worth it And if you uh if you want to to Have a look at those wines i tasted one Recently And it was amazing [Music] We’re talking about mostly white wines Here they are raised but mostly white And they are they are light and alcohol They are fresh they are

Crisp they have a saline influence It’s they are absolutely wonderful wines Reminds me a little bit of really linear Chablis In style slightly more salty but that’s Very Very almost austere quality to it Okay and that’s it we are in madera About a uh kilometers from the mainland Uh very tiny properties also uh you can See in this picture Uh total peanut area is about a thousand Thousand and fifty two hectares Varieties as you expected the same they Make Madeira the fortified wine videlium of Azia Searcial and boa also terrantes And quintana negremoli the Plantings are here quite [Music] Hard to to farm because they’re mostly In fabulous very small plots Uh climate is semi-tropical It’s humid a lot of people from europe Go and retire there because the summers Are not very hot And the winters are not very cold so you Can Imagine what that’s that does to the Vines soils are very Volcanic well they’re working they are Not very they are volcanic spells And i don’t see many still wines

Uh we’re talking about steel wines here I don’t see many steel wines from There outside but i’ve been lucky to Spend a holiday there Going to local shops and buying wines And the ones are very very Light lights in color light and body High in acid and they’re good good ones To go with food and really Refreshing wines And that’s x for ladera so in general Terms In the wine basis quickly just to give You people who are studying for diploma Some Some stats and news starts uh portugal Produces Here 6.5 billion hectares 45 of the wine Is exported in terms of value brings Into the country 820 Million euros accounting for 1.4 Total of portuguese exports Portugal is the 11th largest wine Producer in the world and the Ninth largest exporter and it retains 2.6 Of the global Share this is some Information i got from the Institute of vines and wine less Figures let’s set set of figures which Tells you who are the people who are

Drinking the most of In terms of portuguese wines which is Surprising is france Followed by germany angola uk Us brazil belgium spain Canada and um netherlands So all of you guys who are watching from Around the globe you’re doing an amazing Amazing job drinking portuguese wines i Haven’t seen the The most recent uh figures But uh the last set of figures the the Export figures i mean you have The last set of figures of portuguese Export was up by Seven and a half percent which is which Is great i think people are looking for Authentic wise people are looking for Something different and more diversity And it shows them On the figures of portugal Just the last point i want to make is It’s uh The diversity of portugal uh if you Look at the it is a small country 92 i Said 92 000 uh kilometers square as i Mentioned in the beginning And if you do if you look at that there Are 25 To 250 000 grape varieties planted There’s a ratio of 2.7 Great variety for for every thousand uh Kilometers square so portugal

If you do it this way is the most Diverse Country in the world people think italy Yeah italy Obviously but is it slightly larger Italy if you look at the Stats from the minister of agriculture Of italy They declare 350 000 uh Hector 350 grape varieties which are Gone in italy Which are uh or darkness to talk with Stupidity I suspect there are more but here we are Portugal it is diverse And i Have been i drink a lot of portuguese Wines i drink i like champagne i like Burgundy but i I taste a lot of portuguese wines and i Enjoy portuguese why because The quality is is great the climate is Good so the wines are quite consistent They have lovely food flavors but also They have great structure Good acidity so they’re great ways to go With food If you want to talk to your friends About something different than Chardonnay And cabernet and so on i think portugal Is also Different to offer some unique uh Something

As i said unique selling points they are Less widely available so if you want to Show as i said something different They do have a sense of place if you put Your nose on this Alternator here it takes me straight Back to the door so the wines really Have a sense of place And they are not i’ve been a buyer for For many many years of my life And i do value Wines that give good value for money And portugal’s uh i mean every time and This planet i bought from six pound Ninety nine in the uk that is One of the best value for money wines in The high street i think and alternator Is not far behind But you go up i’m not talking about Entry level you go up into the top end You have wines that are comparable to Some top borders and And and a fraction of the price and you See people like People who have you know how from Lynchburg Working in in portugal people who have The know-how Of bishop nonville Working in portugal there’s a lot of Know-how that’s from france and from Other countries so they are comparable Some great classic wines and not very Expensive

So if you have any questions i think Julia can Relate them to me now but you have my Website and my Instagram you can send me a a message uh If you wish i’ll i’ll do my best i have Some new stats I mean somebody mentioned albarino so i Can give you some exact Plenty of algorithm just message me uh You should follow those handles for Wines of portugal for brazil or usa Depending where you are Uk canada or japan But also more importantly also if you Want to Find out what’s happening in uwct here You are Follow those uh instagram and twitter And uh and also there is also the Website for you to Enroll for the next webinar So thank you very much for listening i Hope you learned one thing or two It’s been a great pleasure Thank you so much for that that was Fascinating I mean already there’s loads of people Um commenting on the chat And their appreciation and their thanks To you um Which i can only add to um if anyone Does have any questions now Um i think i saw just one just then

About um aging potential for portuguese Wines if that’s something you might be Um interested to comment on Um broadly it’s difficult because we Need to talk about what we’re talking About we’re talking about a light wine From lisbon Say no even if a red wine say drink it Now But i have i have bottles of wine in my Cellar from byrada they are from the 70s And i have been lucky to taste wines From the 50s which are White and red which are amazing And i’m going to talk about Even alvarinho for a second because Everyone is a white and people Think it’s one should be drunk within a Year or two and i was given a lecture in Rio a couple of years ago and In brazil uh people often I like like china people enjoy more red Wines So white wine is almost like an Afterthought and This lecture is about edge ability and i I have some wines from the doro Mostly from the current vintage and some Older wines 10 15 years old and why the age beautifully 10 years old 15 years old 20 years old they are Phenomenal but One mind is surprised mostly uh it was

An alvarinho which was about 15 years Old And in age it almost became like a Burgundian he lost his its citrus fruits And Exuberance but he got a wonderful Texture i think Gruner vert lena burgundy alvarino so You just have to pay attention because The white wine skates Very well i think ones from baga which Have very high acid And Firm structure those wines can age for a Long time Ongoing decades so it very much depends On which area How the wines were made as one but if You have a good wine from doro A good one from down a good one from Bharata Red wine you can you can at least 20 25 Years I think that’s a project for all of us To work on there Um just a response to a question about Can we have a real tasting When we’re allowed but also we did do One was it End of last year we had you come in and Do a an excellent tasting for us So um yeah they do happen there’s Yeah you’re right there’s maybe not as Many of them as

Bordeaux but um definitely Um one to keep an eye out for Uh what else we got here um Is there um a trend for fortified wine Producers moving into steel wines That’s a good question um Well you know the fortified wine It is all down to the beneficial depends How much you know How your wines are graded from the from The classification which was the 1940s or the fonseca classification So on average if you have 100 100 vines You can do roughly A pipe or a uh people at the same Portuguese 550 liters It changes it depends so Whatever you allow to you make you’re Going to put the rest You can make into steel wines but more And more people are Vinifying red uh still wines Uh and also yes there’ll be a trend to Answer a question i think it’ll be a Trend towards Watch red wine and more elegant red Wines but also one trend that i i Foresee for doro which is quite Surprising Uh is white wines and they are Really amazing they are phenomenal Yeah it’s interesting it is um a region We do Very much associate with the big big red

Wines so Yeah i think i’ll just i’m just anthony And i i thought Um there are also if you look at the The in the site of the uh ivdp You see that um In terms of volume uh Still red wines is it’s it’s uh Overtakes the Fortified so that dora now uh Does make more still wines in terms of In terms of volume Uh than than fortified wines already Blimey does that mean we all need to Drink more fortified as well Bigger does that mean we all need to Drink more fortified as well Well i think what if what’s going to Happen yeah i think we should because Somebody What’s happening they have a lot of Great vintages And also because of climate change and So on I suspect what’s going to happen in the Future We’re going to see more vintage Declarations uh Used to be three or four every decade we Might see more than that But i think the the volume of those of The production will be smaller so we Will Decide to be more portal more more

Fortified wine But it will be uh it will be more Vintages because Some of the adventures are these Anomalies and it’s hard when you make Such a great wine And the next next next harvest is also As good so what are you going to do Are you going to declare it or not so People declaring i think that they carry Less volume Makes sense all right it’s probably About time To wrap it up here oh final question I’ve just seen come from Um about what would be your um your Desert island table wine portuguese Table wine Had to pick one what would you go for no I don’t Anticipate that question oh my gosh Tough one i have i said to you earlier i Have a soft spot From from from down because if It’s an area which is it’s all Surrounded by mountains by highest Altitude Enterigan so now from here it has that Wild dark fruits but also lots of Violets And uh beautifully structured i i love When they have sort of almost like a Herbal You know the whole area is surrounded by

Uh Pine trees and eucalyptus and all that Sometimes you see that and wine It really takes to give you that sense Of sense of place And i like that and the freshness that Those lines give But then you go to doro and and and you Get some of the old 80 year old vignettes from the door it’s Hard to it’s hard to pick a desert Island but I’m going to say i’m going to go with a Wine from great wine from From down just to be Different because dora is quite Predictable well We might you know we won’t hold you to It you can change your mind later if you Like it’s all right Um cool well i think that is a nice Place to finish up on then So uh once again thank you so much for All that information it’s been Fascinating and thank you to everyone Who’s managed to join us this evening I’ll just end the